Q

Where do you reside?

A

About three-quarters of a mile west of Dennison.

Q

Did you know Martin C. Golden?

A

Yes sir

Q

Do you know Ed Mc Carthey?

A

Yes sir.

Q

Generally known as Sport?

A

Yes sir.

Q

What relation is he to you?

A

First cousin.

Q

Where were you on the night of the 23^rd day of April?

A

I was at the post office part of the time.

Q

The post office is where?

A

Dennison.

Q

Who is the proprietor of the store?

A

Martin Golden.

Q

You saw Martin Golden there that evening?

A

Yes sir.

Q

Talked with him?

A

Yes sir.

Q

Who else was there that evening?

A

Ed Mc Carthey, Jake Nipe, George Carr, and Mike Malone was there for a while.

Q

Did you see Miss Cooney there that night?

A

Alice Cooney, Laura Michael, Bristol Wilton and Miss Olsen for a little while, while she got the mail.

Q

How long did you stay there at the store?

A

I must have got there about 7 o’clock and I think it was about a quarter after eight.

Q

Where did you go from there?

A

I started home.

Q

Who was with you?

A

Ed Mc Carthey.

Q

Where did you go?

A

Went over to the milk stand in front of their place.

Q

How long did you stay there?

A

I must have stayed there 20 minutes or 25 before the shooting.

Q

You say the shooting; did you hear any shooting that night?

A

Yes sir.

Q

Did you hear any noise before that?

A

I heard two hollers.

Q

What was the nature of the hollers?

A

Why, it sounded to me as though it says “Here, here”, only it was more scared it seemed to me.

Q

How long after the hollers, as you put it, was it that you heard the shots?

A

Just as soon as the last holler occurred the first shot came right after that.

Q

How long after the first shot was the second one?

A

Just as soon as he could shoot.

Q

Practically as fast as a man could pull the trigger?

A

Yes sir, it seemed to me that way.

Q

Did you see anybody leaving that place that night?

A

There was a fellow came past us; I suppose he left there.

Q

What was he doing, walking or running?

A

He was running.

Q

What kind of a looking man was he?

A

He seemed to be quite a good sized man, he was not overly large nor so very small; he looked to me - - by the looks of his head and shoulders he looked to be about 185 pounds to me.

Q

 How tall was he?

A

I should judge he was 5 foot 8 or 9.

Q

Which way did he go?

A

He went up on the Grand Trunk track and then west.

Q

Running all the time?

A

He was running - - he run along until he got to the west cattle guard; after that we didn’t look at him any longer.

Q

Where did you go then?

A

We turned around and looked the other way.  Just as we got faced the other way the light came on the porch at Mrs. Golden’s

Q

As to whether or not you saw this man carrying anything in his hand.

A

I didn’t look at his hand only when he was going ahead his left hand was on his pocket in that way (indicating) and it was rattling.

Q

On his trousers pocket or coat pocket?

A

On his trousers pocket.

Q

How was the man dressed as far as you could ascertain?

A

I couldn’t tell, only it looked like dark clothes.

Q

Had an overcoat on?

A

I thought he had an overcoat.

Q

A hat or a cap?

A

It looked like a hat, black hat to me.

Q

A slouch hat something like Cooney has got there?

A

No, more like Ed’s there; I should think it looked like a similar hat.

Q

You couldn’t tell whether it was a hat that had a circular brim turned in?

A

On top?

Q

Yes.

A

No, it was not turned down.

Q

As to whether or not it looked like a hat that way. (indicating)

A

No sir. It looked more like that of Mr. Lawrence.

Q

Did you recognize the individual who was going by you at the time?

A

No sir.

Q

What did you do after you saw the light on the porch?

A

Why, she come out there with a light and she called “Mart” two or three times.  I says to Ed “Lets get down there”, and we started and we hurried along and got about two-thirds of the way.  By that time she got down to where he was - - that is we didn’t hear no answer, we didn’t hear him answer when she called; that is the reason I says “Lets get down there.”

Q

What did you do?

A

We run right out there.

Q

Did you hear her say anything at all before you got up there?

A

Yes sir, I heard her say “Oh, Mart is shot;” I heard her crying and screaming.

Q

What did you do after you got there?  Did she say anything to you after you got there?

A

She says “Carry him into the house.”

Q

Did she say anything to you before that?

A

When we were coming she says “Who are you, who are you”?  She had the lamp in her hands.  I couldn’t see her plainly in the dark.  I spoke her name twice and she knew our voice than.

Q

What did you do then after you got there?

A

We carried him into the house.

Q

You and Ed carried him in?

A

Yes sir.

Q

What did you do then?

A

We left him on the couch and she gave us a key to go over to the store and use the telephone.

Q

What did you do after you got to the store?

A

Ed rung up Coopersville and couldn’t get them.  Just then Alex Carr came in the store and he says “Cant you get Will Fitz”.  So Ed rung Will Fitz, and he got him.

Q

Will Fitzpatrick you mean?

A

Yes sir.

Q

When was it you notified the Sheriff?

A

I think - - we didn’t notify him; it was Will Fitzpatrick notified him from home I think before he started up with us - - notified Coopersville.

Q

What condition did you find Martin Golden in at the time?

A

He was laying just as straight as he could with his head very near to the walk, stretched right out, and when we went to bend over him, he rolled just the least bit and there was something coming out of his mouth; I didn’t know what it was but I found out afterwards it was an orange he was eating.

Q

As to whether there were any evidences of a struggle thereabouts.

A

No, I couldn’t tell, I don’t think so.

Q

Did you make any examination around the store the next Day to ascertain any trace of anybody being around there?

A

We looked the next morning; Will Golden wanted to know if I ever saw that bird box there.  I told him I did not.  He said “It is under the window there and there is tracks of fresh sand; so we went out there that day about four o’clock or a little after, Tuesday morning and looked at it.

Q

(by a juror) I would like to know where Mrs. Golden got the key to go to the store.

A

It was hanging right by the door.  I says “Minnie, reach in his pocket and get the key so we can get to the telephone.”  She says “There is one hanging up by the side of the door.”

Q

Just tell us what you found in regard to his clothes, as to whether his pockets were turned or anything like that.

A

I didn’t look; I don’t think they was, still I didn’t see them turned.

Q

You don’t know anything about that at all?

A

No sir.

Mr. Pagelsen: Do you know anything about that at all, Miss Olson?  (no response.)