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Q

Have you got a habit of going into saloon without drinking?

A

Yes, sir, I go into lots of them and don’t drink.

Q

How many times were you in the other saloon that day?

A

I couldn’t tell you exactly.

Q

Once or twice?

A

Yes, sir, as much as that I guess.

Q

Did you drink anything in the other saloon that day?

A

I presume I did I couldn’t tell you.

Q

In other words you drink if you have money and if you ‘aint you don’t?

A

Yes, sir.  Sometimes I drink when I ‘aint got money.

Q

When you get a friend like Brown?

A

No response.

Q

How long have you lived in Nunica?

A

Well sir, I have lived off and on there this last time for about two years and a half.

Q

Where did you live previous to that?

A

Lived in Grand Rapids last winter.

Q

What did you do in Grand Rapids?

A

Kept a boarding house.

Q

Whereabouts?

A

43 Lagrave

Q

You are now living in Nunica?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

Still running the hotel?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

Have you a bar in connection with your hotel now?

A

No, sir.

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Q

Did you see the Frenchman after your left the saloon that day?

A

No, sir.

Q

Did you see Shimmel after you left the saloon that day?

A

No, sir.

Q

Did you see him any place around there?

A

No, sir.

Q

Do you know how he was there that time?

A

No, I do not.

Q

Had you seen him before that day?

A

Not as I know of.

Q

Any time during that day?

A

No, sir.

Q

What did you do the next day?

A

Went to church I guess.

Q

You attended church the next day?

A

Oh the next day - - I was around town there.

Q

Did you go to church every Sunday?

A

Sometimes.

Q

So you think you went to church the next day?

A

Not the next day after that I didn’t.

Q

Were there any guests at your hotel on the 23^rd of April 1906

A

I couldn’t say whether there was or not.

Q

Was there any one there the day before?

A

I don’t think there was.

Q

Were you in this saloon the day before?

A

No, sir.

Q

The day before that, two day before?

A

I don’t think it.

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Q

You don’t think you were?

A

No, sir.

Q

And you usually go to one or the other every day?

A

Oh not every day.

Q

When did you hear of this murder?

A

I heard of it Tuesday morning after.

Q

Tuesday morning?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

That was two days after it happened?

A

No, sir, the next morning?

Q

What time of day was it when you head of it?

A

Oh seven or eight o’clock.

Q

Who told you about it?

A

I went in Brown and Barbricks store and they told me abut it.

Q

Was Brown telling you?

A

No, there wasn’t any one told me exactly, they were talking it over there in the store.

Q

Who was the first one that told you about it?

A

They were the first ones that told me about it.  They were not directing their conversation to me though.

Q

You overheard their conversation?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

Did you ask any questions?

A

Yes, sir I asked them when it was done and they said it was done the night before.

Q

Who did you ask that of?

A

I spoke to the whole of them.

Q

Who was the whole of them?

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A

Brown and Barbrick was in there and I don’t know exactly who was there.

Q

Barbrick - - you can just name him as the only one?

A

Him, and Brown was in there, both of them.

Q

That was about seven o’clock in the morning?

A

Seven or eight o’clock somewheres along there.

Q

On April 23^rd in the afternoon when you drove this man two miles what place was that you say you went to?

A

Spoonville.

Q

Where did you eat your supper?

A

I had it at home.

Q

That was after you returned?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

Do you know what time it was that you had supper?

A

I generally ate about six or half past?

Q

That is what you generally do?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

Do you know what you did on that day?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

What time was it when you ate on that day?

A

It must have been about six.

Q

About six o’clock?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

Did you look at your watch to see what time it was?

A

No.

Q

What does your family consist of, how many?

A

There is five of us altogether.

Q

Do you all live at Nunica?