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A

A two horse buggy.

Q

A light buggy?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

Did you trot any of the way over?

A

I guess I did.

Q

Did you trot any of the way back?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

Was Frank Green in the saloon when you came in?

A

I think he was.

Q

He was in the saloon and the Frenchman was in the saloon?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

What did you say his name was?

A

Mayo

Q

You had known him for some time?

A

No, I have seen him a few times, I was not well acquainted with him.

Q

Have you seen him since this occurred?

A

No, sir.

Q

Had you seen him the day before this?

A

No, sir.

Q

When had you seen him before this?

A

I ‘aint seen him in six or seven years.

Q

You said you didn’t see him the next day?

A

No.

Q

Do you know where he went?

A

No.

Q

Did you see him again that day after you returned?

A

No

Q

Had you ever seen Shimmel before that time?

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A

Not as I know of.

Q

When Brown told you that it was Whistling Bill Shimmel - -

A

(Interrupting)  Brown didn’t tell me.

Q

Who told you that?

A

Mr. Sheler.

Q

Didn’t you think that was a peculiar name for a man?

A

I had heard the name before.

Q

When had you heard that name before?

A

Oh several times.

Q

Did you know why he was termed Whistling Bill?

A

No, sir.

Q

Did you think that was his right name?

A

No, I didn’t think it was his right name.  He said his name was Whistling Bill Shimmel.

Q

And you say you were in the saloon a half an hour?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

How long was Brown in the saloon?

A

I don’t know.  I didn’t notice him when he went out.

Q

You don’t know but what he might have been there when you went out?

A

No, I don’t think he was.

Q

Did you treat any one in the saloon?

A

I couldn’t tell you.

Q

Did you treat Brown?

A

No, sir.

Q

Brown treated you?

A

Brown treated me that time.

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Q

Did you treat anyone else in the saloon?

A

I don’t think I did.

Q

Did Brown treat any one else?

A

I don’t think so.  He might for all I know.

Q

Who was in the back of that saloon playing cards if you know?

A

Well sir, I couldn’t tell you.

Q

They were people who lived in Nunica were they?

A

I think so.

Q

Give me the name of all the people that you saw in the saloon at that time.

A

Well there was Andrew Sheler was one, Frank Green, Fremont Brown, Ed Brown.

Q

Who else?

A

Well there was this Frenchman and Mr. Shimmel.

Q

How many others were in the saloon during that time would you say?

A

Oh I couldn’t tell.

Q

Were there three or four others?

A

There might have been.

Q

Were any of those men playing cards in the back?

A

Not these that I spoke of wasn’t.

Q

Did you play cards in that saloon that day?

A

No, sir.

Q

Had you ever seen the people that were there playing cards before?

A

Yes, sir, I had seen some of them.

Q

Have you seen them since?

A

Yes, sir.

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Q

Have you learned what their names were?

A

Well their is a half a dozen different ones that plays cards over there, a good deal.

Q

Can you give the name of any one that was playing cards at that time in the back of the saloon?

A

I think Frank Hagens was in there for one.

Q

Does he live in Nunica?

A

He lives a little west of Nunica.

Q

Who else?

A

I don’t know as I can tell you, I didn’t take notice enough.

Q

You can see these people every day nearly though?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

You know them by name when you see them, don’t you?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

And you cannot give their names now?

A

Oh I couldn’t tell exactly who was playing.

Q

What all did you drink in that saloon that day?

A

I drank a glass of beer.

Q

Just one glass?

A

Yes, sir.

Q

You say you were in there twice in the forenoon of that day?

A

Probably once or twice.

Q

What did you drink when you were in there on those occasions?

A

I didn’t drink at all.

Q

Didn’t drink anything?

A

No, dir.

Q

What was the occasion of your going over there?

A

Oh it is a  habit I’ve got.