The People of the State of Michigan - - - (Complainants)

VS

William Shimmel - - - (Defendant)

Peter Bolema

†††††††††† Cross Examination

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CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. PARK.

 

 

Q

You left home about nine oíclock that morning you went to Nunica, didnít you?

A

No, sir.

 

 

Q

What time did you leave?

A

I guess between seven and eight.

 

 

Q

It was nearer eight than it was seven wasnít it?

A

I donít know.† I didnít know the time and that is my judgment on account of my work.

 

 

Q

It might have been nine?

A

No.

 

 

Q

What time do you get up in the morning?

A

That is not alike, sometimes at five, and sometimes before and sometimes later.

 

 

 

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Q

Well in April, do you get up earlier in April than you do in June and July?

A

No.

 

 

Q

Do you usually sleep a little longer that month?

A

It is an on account of the work sir.

 

 

Q

Now you say you hauled in potatoes that day?

A

Yes, sir.

 

 

Q

Were those some that you had just dug?

A

No, they was what we pitted over winter.

 

 

Q

There wasnít any snow on the ground was there?

A

I guess no.† If it had been this year maybe there was, but I guess not.

 

 

Q

What time was it when you got to Nunica that morning?

A

Oh I guess it was about an hour later from the time I started.

 

 

Q

About nine oíclock?

A

Yes, sir, something like that.

 

 

Q

How many miles is that from where you live?

A

Five miles.

 

 

Q

And how long were you in Nunica before you went to Coopersville?

A

I donít know.

 

 

Q

Did you have any trading to do in Nunica?

A

Yes, sir.

 

 

Q

What did that consist of?

A

Went to the store but I Ďaint sure if I had the time to take the next car and buy my groceries or done it afterwards, I donít know about that.

 

 

Q

You took the next car you say that went to Coopersville?

 

 

 

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A

That is what I think.

 

 

Q

What time was it that that car went to Coopersville?

A

I donít know.

 

 

Q

About ten oíclock?

A

It could be, I donít know the time.

 

 

Q

It could have been ten oíclock?

A

Maybe.

 

 

Q

How long did it take you to go from Nunica to Coopersville on the car?

A

Well there is a certain rule the car goes, maybe you know that better than I do.

 

 

Q

That depends on how fast the car runs?

A

Yes, sir.

 

 

Q

How many miles is it?

A

Well that I cannot state exactly.

 

 

Q

Seven or eight miles?

A

Maybe.

 

 

Q

Where did you go when you got off the car in Coopersville?

A

I donít remember.

 

 

Q

What did you go to Coopersville for?

A

I donít know.

 

 

Q

Did you do any trading there?

A

Sometimes.

 

 

Q

When did you that day?

A

I guess I did, I donít know.† Of course it is over a year after and I donít know what I did there.

 

 

Q

Have you been there since?

A

Yes, sir, many times.

 

 

 

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Q

Name one day since that you have been to Coopersville, where you drove to Nunica and took the car to Coopersville.

A

I cannot state the day.

 

 

Q

Name one thing that you went to Coopersville for when you drove to Nunica and took the car to Coopersville - - you cannot do that can you?

A

I donít know.

 

 

Q

How many times have you done that?

A

Whats that sir - -

 

 

Q

Drove to Nunica and taken the car to Coopersville?

A

Oh, I have done that a good many times.

 

 

Q

Would you say a dozen times during the last year?

A

More than that I guess.† Yes, sir.† Well I donít know about that either.

 

 

Q

How many times during the month of April 1906 did you do that?

A

I donít know.

 

 

Q

Would you say you did it two or three times?

A

I canít say.

 

 

Q

What is your best recollection?

A

I donít know anything about that.

 

 

Q

Did you during the year 1906 on more than three occasions drive to Nunica and take the car to Coopersville?

A

I cannot say.

 

 

Q

Would you say that you did it more than this once on the 23rd of April?

A

Do you mean on that one day?

 

 

Q

No, I mean during that year.† You understand the question donít you?

A

Yes, sir, I guess I went but of course I canít state that because

 

 

 

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A

I donít remember.† If I have something to do, I just go and come back.

 

 

Q

You go down there quite often?

A

Yes, sir.

 

 

Q

You make maybe two or three dozen trips a year?

A

No, I guess not.

 

 

Q

Half a dozen?

A

Yes, sir.

 

 

Q

And in any of those trips that you made by driving to Nunica and taking a car to Coopersville you cannot tell any one thing that you went to Coopersville for?

A

No, but I may remember that I bought something there that I got to use for my farm work, that could be, but it is not in my remembering now.

 

 

Q

You cannot remember any one thing now?

A

No, sir.

 

 

Q

What time in the morning was it that you saw this strange man come out of the fields?

A

That was soon after I left home.

 

 

Q

About twenty rods from where your house is?

A

No.

 

 

Q

About eighty rods?

A

About eighty or a hundred, a hundred rods or a little more.

 

 

Q

It must have been before nine oíclock?

A

Yes, sir.

 

 

Q

You say he was going west?† The same direction you were going?

A

Yes sir.

 

 

 

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Q

And you were trotting right along were you?

A

Afterwards I did I guess.

 

 

Q

When you first seen him you were on top of the hill werenít you?

A

No, I was not. I went that way.

 

 

Q

Is there a bend in the road there?

A

No.

 

 

Q

Straight road?

A

Yes, sir.

 

 

Q

Where was this man that you saw coming out of the field when you first saw him, how far from the road?

A

He come on the road, that is where I saw him first.

 

 

Q

You donít know whether he had been over in the field or not?

A

Well I am pretty sure.

 

 

Q

You are pretty sure e had been over in the field?

A

Yes, sir.

 

 

Q

Was it your field that he came out off?

A

No.

 

 

Q

Your neighbors?

A

Yes, sir.

 

 

Q

How close is the closest house from the place where you saw the stranger?

A

Half a mile I guess.

 

 

Q

Half a mile from there?

A

Yes, sir.

 

 

Q

Then your house is the closest house from where you saw him?

A

Yes sir.

 

 

Q

Were you alone that morning?

A

Yes, sir.